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Postby Free Bagel » Thu Apr 22, 2004 11:32 pm

ESPN just reported that this trade offer is bogus and that SD and NYG are not close to a deal, and also that SD still intends to select Manning:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draf ... id=1787976
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Postby aussieboy » Thu Apr 22, 2004 11:42 pm

i belive Manning will end up in NY thru a trade, which i think is fu**ing disgraceful, you cant have undrafted rookies thinking that theyre so crash hot that they believe they can dictate where they should go. I hate it.
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Postby mtarail » Fri Apr 23, 2004 1:56 am

aussieboy wrote:i belive Manning will end up in NY thru a trade, which i think is fu**ing disgraceful, you cant have undrafted rookies thinking that theyre so crash hot that they believe they can dictate where they should go. I hate it.


I couldn't agree more with this. This is the exact same reason that I despised Elway throughout his career. It is just absolutely pathetic.

If the Chargers can those picks and Hilliard from the Giants then they've gotta do it. If not, they should pick Manning and make him prove that he's really a big enough a-hole to actually sit out a year in "protest" of playing with the them.
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Postby slowkidz » Fri Apr 23, 2004 5:59 am

There is a lot of trade talks going around with SD/Manning now. Personally, I think SD should just draft him and say play or go bag groceries from now on! I'm sure Eli will realize that what he and his dad did was just make it harder on him to come into the league. Whoever his soon to be teammates are, they are sure to be a lil pissy over this...

also, more trade talks...

NFL Draft Shaping Up to Be Wacky Event
1 hour, 39 minutes ago

By DAVE GOLDBERG, AP Football Writer

NEW YORK - Eli Manning doesn't want to play in
San Diego. The Cleveland Browns could make that
moot by allowing the Chargers to get out of the
top spot.

Cleveland, which desperately wants offensive
tackle Robert Gallery of Iowa, was talking to the
Chargers on Thursday about moving up from seventh
to take the first pick in Saturday's draft. That
would leave Manning for Oakland, which picks
second, or the New York Giants (news), who have
the fourth pick.

Manning was in New York with his star quarterback
brother and father on Thursday. He confirmed that
he'd prefer to be chosen by a team other than the
Chargers. He didn't say he wanted that team to be
the Giants, but that seemed to be the consensus
among general managers, scouts and several
agents.

Eli's father, Archie, said Eli's desire not to
play for the Chargers was communicated to San
Diego general manager A.J. Smith by Tom Condon,
agent for both Eli and brother Peyton, the NFL's
co-MVP last season. Archie's experience had to
play a part - he was the second overall pick in
the 1971 draft and was forced to spend nearly his
entire career with the dismal New Orleans Saints
(news).

"It was a family decision that we preferred that
the Chargers not take Eli," Archie said,
acknowledging that the squeaky clean Manning
family image could be tarnished in the process.

"I'm going to get hammered and I'm sure Eli
will," he said.

Just more developments in what truly is a wacky
draft.

In most years, the first half-dozen or so picks
are pretty well set the week before the draft.
And, a quarterback with Manning's accomplishments
at Mississippi and a family pedigree normally is
a no-brainer as the first pick, as his brother
was in 1998 by the Colts.

But this is an unusually deep draft with as many
as a dozen players who could have an impact on
NFL teams for a decade. San Diego, for example,
would be willing to drop to seventh because it
thinks it could use that pick to get North
Carolina State quarterback Philip Rivers, perhaps
the fastest-rising player in the draft.

The Browns would probably have to give up next
year's No. 1 and possibly unhappy wide receiver
Dennis Northcutt.

Manning, meanwhile, could be taken second overall
by Oakland or fourth by the Giants. Arizona,
which has the third pick, seems the only
predictable team. The Cardinals almost surely
will take wide receiver Larry Fitzgerald of Pitt,
who was a ball boy for coach Dennis Green when he
was the coach at Minnesota.



I'd give up next year's #1 and D'Cutt for Gallery. No question about it.
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Postby aussieboy » Fri Apr 23, 2004 6:14 am

im a bit confused with timezones and the sort, is the draft on in two hrs or 26 hrs?? Please say its today.
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Postby Mookie4ever » Fri Apr 23, 2004 6:20 am

I agree that this is a ton to give up.

You would think that the Giants would just not show their hand or even practice a little deception in order to get their man.
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Postby slowkidz » Fri Apr 23, 2004 6:51 am

aussieboy wrote:im a bit confused with timezones and the sort, is the draft on in two hrs or 26 hrs?? Please say its today.


the draft is Saturday at Noon....Today is only Friday and it is now 7:50am est.

so it's about 28hrs away... :-)
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Postby aussieboy » Fri Apr 23, 2004 7:05 am

the draft is Saturday at Noon....Today is only Friday and it is now 7:50am est.


that is hell dissapointing i had my popcorn ready and all.
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Postby Flux » Fri Apr 23, 2004 7:36 am

I dont think that SD was sold on Manning anyway, so this at least gives them an out to their fans to trade down or take Gallery.

My respect for the Manning family has gone way way down. Not only are they being spoiled little brats, but Eli himself had to have daddy go do the dirty work. Then Archie gets mad that SD made this public? Wtf do you expect them to do?

I actually hope that either SD takes Gallery or trades their pick to Cleveland. Don't let Eli get the money associated w/ the #1 pick in the draft, he doesn't deserve it.
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Postby Free Bagel » Fri Apr 23, 2004 1:18 pm

Again, ESPN has reported that SD has rejected the Giants offer, and in an interview with Schottenheimer he said he intends to select Manning #1.
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