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Postby mig28 » Tue May 18, 2004 3:02 pm

11-Tom Brady
12-Brett Favre
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Postby CC » Tue May 18, 2004 3:11 pm

No Edge in the top 10? And Peerless at 10?

Those two are pretty bad.
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Postby maddog60 » Tue May 18, 2004 3:19 pm

Trent Green ranked above McNabb is still the most glaring choice to me.

That, and they're putting far too much stock in Vick's throwing ability to think he'll be able to turn Price into a top 10 WR.
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Postby deftdelivery » Tue May 18, 2004 3:27 pm

The thing about these mags is that they have to appeal to the public; and therefore, cannot go too far out on a limb in predictions. Receiving emails of critique is the last thing these guys wanna look at. But what pisses me off the most about these magazines is they rarely put go-to, solid players ahead of "new up and coming stars." They just play on public opinion :-t
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Postby moochman » Tue May 18, 2004 3:51 pm

I try to avoid these mags this early in the off season. I'll end up picking one up a month or so poir to my drafts to whet my whistle. I liketo try and hear some camp news and maybe exhibition results to make my decisions more than these mags. I have played for 2 years and used a cheat sheet my 1st year and my own noodle my second year. Both methods allowed me to build thoroughly mediocre teams! All iinfo hlps, but try not to rely on any mag or cheat sheet too much. Your own opinion is what counts, as long as you are informed. Remember, as you can see from using the Cafe, there are a lot of opinions out there. They can't all be right.
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Postby mig28 » Tue May 18, 2004 3:55 pm

Since the post generated greater interest than I thought it would, here's a more comprehensive list. I've included the mag's '04 projections for yards and total TDs (QB and RB #s are combined yardage projections):
QB
1.Culpepper-3963/28
2.Manning-4321/28
3.Hasslebeck-4085/28
4.Vick-3808/22
5.McNair-3505/27
6.Brooks-3722/26
7.T.Green-3933/24
8.McNabb-3484/22
9.Pennington-3433/25
10.Garcia-3371/26
11.Brady-3614/25
12.Favre-3274/27
13.Bulger-3361/22

RB
1.Tomlinson-2596/18
2.Holmes-2107/22
3.McAllister-2222/17
4.Alexander-1981/20
5.Portis-1912/20
6.A.Green-1999/15
7.J.Lewis-2014/14
8.R.Williams-1903/13
9.Barlow-1860/13
10.M.Faulk-1432/13
11.R.Johnson-1455/11
12.Barber-1735/6
13.Taylor-1765/8
14.E.James-1579/8
15.D.Davis-1666/7
16.S.Davis-1416/9
17.Henry-1181/10
18.Shipp-1383/7
19.Garner-1243/6
20.Westbrook-1089/7
21.Staley-1136/6
22.C.Martin-1318/5
23.W.Green-1317/6
24.Dillon-1100/7

WR
1.R.Moss-1477/13
2.Harrison-1452/11
3.Holt-1525/9
4.Owens-1114/12
5.C.Johnson-1346/8
6.Horn-1136/9
7.Ward-1058/9
8.S.Moss-1147/9
9.Boldin-1252/7
10.P.Price-1209/7
11.Mason-1169/7
12.Coles-1189/6
13.D.Jackson-1084/8
14.S.Smith-1077/7
15.Boston-1114/7
16.C.Rogers-1013/8
17.K.Robinson-1126/6
18.Warrick-901/7
19.Burress-1103/6
20.A.Johnson-1017/7
21.Chambers-927/8
22.Toomer-1144/6
23.R.Wayne-979/7
24.J.Walker-907/9

TE
1.Gonzalez-888/8
2.Shockey-765/6
3.Heap-785/6
4.Crumpler-711/6
5.A.Gates-648/5*
6.D.Graham-554/5
7.B.Williams-435/6
8.Becht-408/6
9.F.Jones-578/3
10.McMichael-593/4
11.Pollard-547/5
12.Kinney-486/4
13.Franks-320/6

*-S.Sharpe was actually the 5th TE listed
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Postby MCG321 » Tue May 18, 2004 3:56 pm

moochman wrote:And Deft, you avatar is killing me!


I'm sorry for any mirror you have ever glanced at. :-D
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Postby CC » Tue May 18, 2004 3:56 pm

MCG321 wrote:I thought their first mag was last year...maybe I'm thinking of a different mag, but it was the one with Portis on the front and an interview with a trainer.


That was a real good mag. I bought it last year and although I didn't use it for the cheatsheets, it still had lots of information I didn't know. Plus an interview with Portis, and a long-term look at the rookies, it was worth the 8 bucks (Canadian :-) ).
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Postby Cornbread Maxwell » Tue May 18, 2004 4:06 pm

Any explanation for dropping Edge to the 14th best RB?

How about leaving Moulds off the WR list completely?
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Postby mig28 » Tue May 18, 2004 4:20 pm

Cornbread Maxwell wrote:Any explanation for dropping Edge to the 14th best RB?

How about leaving Moulds off the WR list completely?


Moulds came in @ 28. This particular mag doesn't have much in the way of opinion or explanation, just stats & projections.
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