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Postby Fender » Thu Jun 03, 2004 9:03 pm

Graphic are improved, but not major changes. They have some new sweat bands, they have new gloves, and they are more toned in the muscle areas. Plus, you can see th outlines of that pads whe nyou play, so that's pretty cool. [/url]
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Postby Fender » Thu Jun 03, 2004 9:22 pm

TEAM OVR OFF DEF

49ers 67 69 70

Bears 77 77 79

Bengals 84 86 79

Bills 82 80 94

Broncos 88 87 90

Browns 75 81 73

Buccs 83 82 85

Cardinals 71 75 70

Chargers 70 81 68

Chiefs 90 97 76

Colts 91 98 77

Cowboys 84 76 95

Dolphins 83 79 93

Eagles 92 90 90

Falcons 80 84 69

Giants 79 78 80

Jags 77 80 76

Jets 74 80 71

Lions 76 82 78

Packers 89 90 83

Panthers 94 85 99

Patriots 98 90 99

Raiders 72 70 83

Rams 86 92 75

Ravens 88 80 96

Redskins 88 90 84

Saints 80 82 74

Seahawks 88 90 88

Steelers 80 81 83

Texans 76 81 70

Titans 92 89 86

Vikings 81 90 82
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Postby hayesb26 » Thu Jun 03, 2004 9:27 pm

Team Overall Offense Defense
Patriots 98 90 99
Panthers 94 85 99
Eagles 92 90 90
Titans 92 89 86
Colts 91 90 77
Chiefs 90 97 76
Packers 89 90 83
Broncos 88 87 90
Ravens 88 80 96
Seahawks 88 90 88
Redskins 88 90 84
Rams 86 92 75
Bengals 84 86 79
Cowboys 84 76 95
Buccaneers 83 82 85
Dolphins 83 79 93
Bills 82 80 94
Vikings 81 90 82
Saints 80 82 74
Steelers 80 81 83
Falcons 80 84 69
Giants 79 78 80
Bears 77 77 79
Jaguars 77 80 76
Lions 76 82 78
Texans 76 81 70
Browns 75 81 73
Jets 74 80 71
Raiders 72 70 83
Cardinals 71 75 70
Chargers 70 81 68
49'ers 67 69 70


Team


Offense

Chiefs 97
Rams 92
Vikings 90
Colts 90
Eagles 90
Packers 90
Redskins 90
Patriots 90
Seahawks 90
Titans 89
Broncos 87
Bengals 86
Panthers 85
Falcons 84
Buccaneers 82
Lions 82
Saints 82
Steelers 81
Texans 81
Browns 81
Chargers 81
Ravens 80
Bills 80
Jaguars 80
Jets 80
Dolphins 79
Giants 78
Bears 77
Cowboys 76
Cardinals 75
Raiders 70
49'ers 69


Team


Defense

Patriots 99
Panthers 99
Ravens 96
Cowboys 95
Bills 94
Dolphins 93
Eagles 90
Broncos 90
Seahawks 88
Titans 86
Buccaneers 85
Redskins 84
Raiders 83
Steelers 83
Packers 83
Vikings 82
Giants 80
Bengals 79
Bears 79
Colts 77
Jaguars 76
Chiefs 76
Rams 75
Saints 74
Browns 73
Jets 71
49'ers 70
Texans 70
Cardinals 70
Falcons 69
Chargers 68



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you can pick those up on any decent madden site/forum..

Are there any changes in the real game or things that you can tell us that aren't public yet? I thought EA said there were several surprises they weren't telling the public..
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Postby Free Bagel » Thu Jun 03, 2004 10:04 pm

Just thought I'd note, that even if those ratings do come from the actual game in it's current state, they'll likely change drastically.

Madden is usually pretty conservative with their team ratings. For instance, last year the highest rated defense was 89 overall, while in that list there are several teams in the high 90's. I think this is because they base their offense/defense ratings on the average of the ratings of each of the starters on that side of the ball.

Outside of that large point, some of those just don't make sense. Carolina with a 99 overall D? Sure, they have a great d-line, but they really don't have any LB's/CB's that I think EA could justify putting anywhere near the 90 range, although Manning Jr. will probably get overrated because all of the hype around him after that 3 INT playoff game.

Like I said, I'm not saying that you're lying, but even if those are the ratings currently in the game, they'll likely change. I'd imagine they like to change things up as close to the actual season as possible. There was a similar list before Madden 2004 out, and it ended up being way off. It had the Browns D rated waaaaaaaay lower than any other D (even the cards), and the actual game when it was released had them ranked in the middle of the pack.
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Postby Free Bagel » Thu Jun 03, 2004 10:07 pm

As long as you're here though, even if they are only early indications, you mind giving me a few ratings about the Cowboys?

1. The overall rating of all the starters on the Dallas D, interested to see how they will rate them this year.
2. Jason Witten's overall, speed, and catch ratings
3. Julius Jones' overall, speed, agility, accel, strength, breakt tackle, catch, and carry ratings
4. Who do they have defaulted as the Denver starting RB, and what is Tatum Bell's speed?
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