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Postby hander99 » Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:46 pm

These are a list of deep sleepers for the upcoming season. You best believe these guys could very well win it all for you.

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If I am missing a deep sleeper and I do mean deep than get back to me.
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Postby Franchise Fan » Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:57 pm

your deep sleeper wide recievers... I dont know how deep your going, but here are some guys

Reggie Wayne(if you consider him a sleeper)
Charles Johnson
Andre Johnson
Roy Williams
Larry Fitzgerald
Cedrick Wilson from San Fran, hes listed as their Number 1 above conway
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Postby hander99 » Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:05 pm

Well i didn't want to put fitz and roy because they arnt really sleepers to me. Andre johnson could be considered one and charles, but the rest are a little more household names to me. But I do like your additions. And for cedric wilson. He is definetly not the number one guy in San Fran. He will be a slot receiver for the niners this coming year and i expect woods and lloyd to be the main offensive threat with conway finding himself somewhere in the mix.
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Postby bolkonsky_ffc » Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:07 pm

If, and this might be one of the biggest if's in recent memory, the Bears new offense pans out, whoever gets the nod at 2nd WR (Gage or Terrell) would be in a coma he would be such a sleeper.
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Postby jjdub » Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:25 pm

I think Antonio Gates (S.D.) will have a good year as Rivers gets used to QB.
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Postby KingGhidra » Tue Jun 29, 2004 7:10 pm

Top 5 Deep Sleeper Running Backs

1.Julius Jones, RB Dallas Cowboys
2.Kevin Jones, RB Detroit Lions
3.Marcel Shipp, RB Arizona Cardinals
4.Lee Suggs, RB Cleveland Browns
5a.Tatum Bell, RB DenverBroncos
5b.Quentin Griffin, RB Denver Broncos


How the hell are these guys sleepers? The Joneses and Suggs are going in the 4th to 5th round. When all is said and done, 99% of leagues will draft each of these players. This is a list of "guys who are highly regarded and most likely will cost you a decent draft pick" not a list of sleepers.

Domanick Davis and Brian Westbrook were sleepers for 2003. Drafted in maybe 10% of all leagues last year and finished in the top 20. My sleeper list looks nothing like the players he is mentioning.
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Postby hander99 » Tue Jun 29, 2004 7:23 pm

yeah, you have a point about the rb's, but i didn't want to put guys that i thought just had an outside chance of making an impact. These are guys that you can get in late rounds (minus the rb's because everyone knows they go early as can be) and have real potential. Sure we can all list names of people that have an outside chance of doing something, but this list is full of big impact players you can get for cheap so maybe deep sleepers might be a stretch but it is definetly sleepers. Just because you go into a draft picking up a guy like davis and it turns out he gets the starting nod, thats great, but the likely hood of that happening is pretty slim. So you can take your sleeper list and post it because I want to see what you have on it of guys that have an actual chance of doing something not just 3rd stringers who might get a chance if 400 guys ahead of them get hurt.
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Postby deftdelivery » Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:10 pm

KingGhidra wrote:
My sleeper list looks nothing like the players he is mentioning.


So what does that list look like then, KG?
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Postby Canacuna » Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:23 pm

hander99 wrote:Sure we can all list names of people that have an outside chance of doing something, but this list is full of big impact players you can get for cheap so maybe deep sleepers might be a stretch but it is definetly sleepers. Just because you go into a draft picking up a guy like davis and it turns out he gets the starting nod, thats great, but the likely hood of that happening is pretty slim.


I thought a sleeper was someone who had an outside chance of doing something. It seems that for the most part, you lived by that with your selections (aside from at RB - I've seen all of 'em ranked in the top 25 in some rankings). I don't think that mid-round selections are necessarily "sleepers". Sleepers, IMO, are guys people would be shocked to see good fantasy production out of.

Last year, I drafted Steve Smith and Santana Moss in the later rounds of my draft hoping one of them would turn out to be a solid #3 WR on my team and was laughed at - but they were my sleepers, so I didn't care. Luckily, I held on to 'em and they turned out being weekly contributers to my fantasy squad - that's a sleeper, methinks.
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Postby hander99 » Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:30 pm

You cant argue that sleepers are no names and then say you drafted SANTA MOSS and steve smith. I know at the beginning of the season neither was highly sought after, but at the same time those were both people that most people knew and had a starting spot. I am doing no different by picking guys that will get a chance to see the field but arn't the big names just like Moss and Smith were last season. How picky do you want to get about the term? If I start saying Ty Detmer is a sleeper because I think Vick will get hurt again, does that make it valid?
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