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Postby Moses08 » Fri Jul 09, 2004 11:32 pm

Hi,

I'm trying to create a realistic scoring system that will make all positions equal. Please give me your comments/suggestions. I take constructive criticism very well.

Normal Scoring (Offense)
6 pts for each passing TD
6 pts for each receiving TD
6 pts for each rushing TD
Return TDs count for offensive players
1 pt(s) for each 50 yard passing clip
1 pt(s) for each 20 yard receiving clip
1 pt(s) for each 20 yard rushing clip
1 pt(s) for each 20 yard TE receiving clip
1 pt(s) for a field goal between 0 and 30 yards
4 pt(s) for a field goal between 51 and 61 yards
2 pt(s) for a field goal between 31 and 40 yards
3 pt(s) for a field goal between 41 and 50 yards
1 pt(s) for each extra point from your kicker
2 pt(s) for each 2 pt conversion for every player involved

Normal Scoring (Defense)
0.5 pts for each tackle
0.25 pts for each assist
3 pts for each sack
3 pts for each interception
2 pts for each safety
3 pts for each forced fumble
3 pts for each defensive fumble recovery
6 pts for each TD

Losing Points
Minus -2 pt(s) for each fumble by your specific player
Minus -2 pt(s) for each interception by your specific player
Minus 3 pt(s) for each missed field goal
Minus 1 pt(s) for each missed extra point

Roster:
No more than 14 players on your offensive roster
No more than 22 players on your defensive roster

Starters (Active roster)
1 QB
1 RB
2 WR
1 TE
1 K
1 Flex
Acceptable flex positions: RB,WR,TE
3 LB
2 CB
2 S
2 DE
2 DT
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Postby Mercer Boy » Sat Jul 10, 2004 8:28 am

That doesn't sound too bad. Looks like most of your points would come from your defense. As far as the skill players go, you have them set well to get 5 points each. Most QB's can get 250 yards passing, RB's can get 100 yards, and two wideouts will normally add up to 100 yards passing (unless you have really good ones).

I'm not very knowledgable on defense stuff, but I'm sure you put a lot of thought into it!
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Postby Bag » Sun Jul 11, 2004 8:16 am

I subscribe to the K.I.S.S method, I think too many rules and categories takes some of the fun out of it...

Also, imo, taking -3 points away for a missed field goal is kind of overkill, how can you take 3 points away that you never really had?
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Postby Juke » Sun Jul 11, 2004 9:16 am

Unless I missed it, I would add some points per reception for WRs. It helps make them a little more consistent week to week and rewards good wideouts like Boldin last year who may have missed out on the redzone but racked up over 100 yards and 10+ receptions.

Be careful though, personally I would only add 0.5 pt/reception. If you make it a full point, then a WR can almost single handedly win you the game with a 150 yard, 3 TD, 10+ reception performance like Moss and Harrison are capable of doing a couple of times a year.
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Postby FF Newbie » Sun Jul 11, 2004 9:20 am

I also like 0.5pt/reception. We're giving it a try in my league this year for the first time.
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Postby Original_Geek » Sun Jul 11, 2004 10:24 am

Bag wrote:Also, imo, taking -3 points away for a missed field goal is kind of overkill, how can you take 3 points away that you never really had?


I agree with that - I'm not a big fan of taking away points anyway but I know everyone does it so it's pretty accepted but 3 is kinda harsh. I also prefer to make a distinction between a fumble and a lost fumble. I don't think you should be penalized for not losing the ball.

But that's just me.
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Postby Steve-o » Sun Jul 11, 2004 2:20 pm

I have been working on this in my spare time as well and it is good to get a look at yours. Just curious, how did you start coming up with your scoring system? You said a goal was to make all positions even, right? Do you have any specifc point numbers in mind?

Some comments on yours:
I think doing individual defense players is too complicated. It is too much for someone to rank and tackles are not as consistent as they should be in the NFL. I know the official scorers keep track, but sometimes I think their numbers are messed up.

A great QB line of 40-50, 425 yds, 4tds, 0 int yields 32 points
A great RB line of 200 yds ru, 3 ru tds, 2 rec for 20 yds, yields 29 points.
A great WR line of 10 catches for 200 yds and 3 tds yields 28 points.

Just from those numbers it looks like WR are under valued a tad. It is much more frequent that a QB will surpass those numbers above than a WR.


I have done something similar. I wanted to make the positions even and started by determining what would be the best game an individual could have at each position. After determining that I tried to make each perfect game worth fifty points for that player. The only way I could get the positions to be even was to give out yardage bonuses, specifically 350 yds passing, 100 yd rec, 100 yd ru, 200 yd ru. I am still having problems working out the running QBs and the receiving RBs.
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Updated Scoring System

Postby Moses08 » Mon Jul 12, 2004 12:12 am

The Elite Fantasy Football Scoring System

Offense:
6 pts for each passing TD
6 pts for each receiving TD
6 pts for each rushing TD
Return TDs count for offensive players
1 pt(s) for each 50 yard passing clip
1 pt(s) for each 20 yard receiving clip
1 pt(s) for each 20 yard rushing clip
1 pt(s) for each 20 yard TE receiving clip
1 pt(s) for a field goal between 0 and 30 yards
4 pt(s) for a field goal between 51 and 61 yards
2 pt(s) for a field goal between 31 and 40 yards
3 pt(s) for a field goal between 41 and 50 yards
0.5 pt(s) for each reception
1 pt(s) for each extra point from your kicker
2 pt(s) for each 2 pt conversion for every player involved

Defense
0.5 pts for each tackle
0.25 pts for each assist
3 pts for each sack
3 pts for each interception
2 pts for each safety
3 pts for each forced fumble
3 pts for each defensive fumble recovery
6 pts for each TD

Losing Points
Minus -2 pt(s) for each fumble by your specific player
Minus -2 pt(s) for each interception by your specific player
Minus 1 pt(s) for each missed field goal
Minus 1 pt(s) for each missed extra point

Roster:
No more than 14 players on your offensive roster
No more than 22 players on your defensive roster

Starters (Active roster)
1 QB
1 RB
2 WR
1 TE
1 K
1 Flex
Acceptable flex positions: RB,WR,TE
3 LB
2 CB
2 S
2 DE
2 DT

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That is the updated version of my scoring system. I took a lot of your suggestions and put them into it. I didn't add the fumble lost feature because it is not available in my league as of know. Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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Postby Keyser Soze » Tue Jul 13, 2004 4:15 pm

since we are not playing with individual defenseive players, I took a little of what I read here and applied it..
I would like to get some thoughts on the defensive scoring i have proposed.

Roster Positions: QB, WR, WR, RB, TE, WR/RB, K, DEF, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN

Stat Categories: Passing Yards (50 yards per point)
Passing Touchdowns (6)
Interceptions (-2)
Rushing Yards (20 yards per point)
Rushing Touchdowns (6)
Receptions (0.5)
Reception Yards (20 yards per point)
Reception Touchdowns (6)
Return Touchdowns (6)
2-Point Conversions (2)
Fumbles Lost (-2)
Offensive Fumble Return TD (6)
Field Goals 0-19 Yards (1)
Field Goals 20-29 Yards (1)
Field Goals 30-39 Yards (2)
Field Goals 40-49 Yards (3)
Field Goals 50+ Yards (4)
Point After Attempt Made (1)
Sack (.5)
Interception (1)
Fumble Recovery (1)
Touchdown (6)
Safety (2)
Block Kick (2)
Points Allowed 0 points (20)
Points Allowed 1-6 points (15)
Points Allowed 7-13 points (10)
Points Allowed 14-20 points (1)
Points Allowed 21-27 points (-1)
Points Allowed 28-34 points (-10)
Points Allowed 35+ points (-15)
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