Cornbread Maxwell wrote:1. a RB playing for a terrible team that must play from behind on a consistant basis will affect him. I dont care about how talented he is. When your team plays from behind, like ARI did, you simply wont get enough chances to perform.
Stop making excuses for him. He sucked. He didn't make Arizona better. Maybe they were playing from behind BECAUSE HE SUCKED.
ALL of those situations you mentioned were different simply because of the style of play those teams had - ARI had no defense either, while those other teams could keep the score close.
How is it any different? San Diego, Seattle, Cincinnati and Jacksonville all SUCKED. Their defenses SUCKED. All of their offensive systems were DIFFERENT. They had a RB prove himself a stud regardless.
2. You seem to convenetently (sp?) look at total yds v. YPC. His 4.6 YPC are hardley anything to sniff at.
Yes because he is going to rush 9x for 134 yards against Green Bay all the time. How dare I look at his 3.8 YPC besides that game and sniff
They brought in a proven offensive minded coach who has a number of top flight RBs that he helped along through his career.
Thanks for clearing that up because I had been thinking Lovie Smith spent the last 8 years as a defensive coordinator and linebackers coach
TJones was hand picked by him, and offere a 4 yr deal for starter money - that alone means he is the starting RB.
So let's examine this "starter money" contract he has.
He signed a $3.5M bonus with the contract. That means TJ counts $1.7M against the salary cap. Not a huge figure if they decide to cut him after 2004. If they cut him after June 1st of 2005, his cap hit for the next two seasons will be $1.3M. Sure it's $1M dollars, but not a huge amount compared to the $80M teams get total.
Since we keep coming back to the "but he played for Arizona" argument, let's see how that stacks up.2000
Thomas Jones: 112 carries, 373 yards 3.3 YPC: 32 receptions
Michael Pittman: 184 carries, 719 yards, 3.9 YPC: 73 receptions2001
Thomas Jones: 112 carries, 380 yards 3.4 YPC: 21 receptions
Michael Pittman: 241 carries, 846 yards 3.5 YPC: 42 receptions
Michael Pittman goes off to Tampa Bay. TJ finally has a chance to prove what he's made of!!2002
Thomas Jones: 138 carries, 511 yards 3.7 YPC: 20 receptions
Marcel Shipp: 188 carries, 834 yards 4.4 YPC: 38 receptions
Crap beaten again. Not only that, but the "but we played from behind and they couldn't run the ball" excuse doesn't hold up. Shipp had a healthy 4.4 YPC average. Then you might want to say "but Thomas Jones got better too". So lets take .4 YPC away from both so TJ goes back to his career average. Still 4.0 for Shipp. Still twice as many receptions without twice as many carries. Which leads me to this.
G. Rexman will use TJones frequently as an outlet.
But Jones doesn't catch!!
So lets summarize. You and the other TJones lovers out there are basing their entire estimation of Jones on 3-4 good games he had last year compared to a pitiful 4 year career when he's never been able to set himself apart as the best RB on the team.
Thomas Jones sucks. He has sucked, he sucks now and he will continue to suck. I don't care if he rushes for 2000 yards this season, gets 5 interceptions in the playoffs and kicks a game winning 70 yard field goal in the Super Bowl, I'll still say he sucks.