What do you think? With TO FINALLY providing a legit WR target for McNabb I see a Re-Birth for him!
Those are way different than mine and I'm interested to see how you came up with some of those.
Here's mine:
1. Daunte Culpepper
2. Peyton Manning
3. Mike Vick
4. Donovan McNabb
5. Matt Hasselbeck
6. Trent Green
7. Steve McNair
8. Aaron Brooks
9. Marc Bulger
10. Chad Pennington
11. Bret Favre
12. Tom Brady
13. Jeff Garcia
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the second one posted by ajgnydc722 is a much better list for pretty much ALL scoring systems.
Here's mine:
1. Daunte Culpepper 2. Peyton Manning 3. Mike Vick 4. Donovan McNabb 5. Matt Hasselbeck 6. Trent Green 7. Steve McNair 8. Aaron Brooks 9. Marc Bulger 10. Chad Pennington 11. Bret Favre 12. Tom Brady 13. Jeff Garcia
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Football Newbie wrote:IM GETTING SICK OF THIS! WHERE IS PENNY ON YOUR LIST!?!?!
Green and Pennington are getting no love at all. I dont think people who are making these projections
A) Realize that Pennington was injured last year, thus hurting his stats
B) That Green put up huge #'s despite having very little help at WR
Wow.....I leave the board for awhile to go watch a movie and look at the reaction to my post! That's good though, I like hearing other's thoughts.
I kinda figured, after I sat down and compiled this it would get such a reaction. But also consider this. Last season I had Hasselbeck pegged for a breakout year and he was on my team that lost in the SB. Pennington's break out campaign...also on my team. I have a knack for picking the right breakout QB. I also have been to 4 SB (Super Bowls) in 10 years in my league and have won 2 of them. It's a H2H league.
Now....responding to those posts!
ajgnydc722:
I looked at how the player did in previous seasons, giving the highest weight to last year (and also paying special attention to how they did in the second half of last season). I also mentaly factored in what changed from last season to this season and also factored in things like Pennington's injury, etc. Obviously, he'll perform better than last season, as long as he does not get injured.
Then I plugged my projections of TD Passes, possible 200+ yard games, rushing TD's and rushing yards into my point system and out came a number.
For example:
McNabb has not been the picture of health the past two seasons, really bringing down his stats. Only 10 games played in 2002 and a nagging thumb injury last season (even though he played in all 16 games).
However, in 2001, when he was a less polished QB he had thrown for 25 TD's, with a lack-luster WR corps. So, he does have the talent to throw for a high amount of TD's. Match this fact with his being healthy now and add Mr. Owens as a legit WR that can help bring him to career highs in passing TD's and yards passing and you have an interesting situation. Now factor in that T.O. is going to stretch defenses a bit....giving McNabb more room to run when he so chooses. Plus, one must notice that in his final 9 games of last season he had 13 TD passes and topped 200 yards passing in a game 7 times and had 3 rushing TD's.
Can you see why all signs point to a career season?
Ok, my McNabb Projections:
Passing TD's: 28 TD's X 4 pts (for each passing TD) = 112 pts.
200 Yard Games: 11 projected 200 yard games X 1 pt for each 200 yard game = 11 pts.
Rushing TD's: 6 X 6 pts (for each rushing TD) = 36 pts.
Rushing Yards: 425 rushing yards devided by 25 (1 pt for every 25 rushing yards) = 17 pts.
Now, I do recognize that if a QB rushes only 49 yards in a game for me I'll only get one point for that effort, but if he had rushed for 50 yards in the game I'd get 2 points. That could throw it off a small bit, but that potential deviation is pretty much limited to the rushing QB's mainly and is a constant variable among them, so this method is sound.
Hope this wasn't confusing. I'll answer all other posts now in another post so this one doesn't go on forever.
Ok, now that others know what went into my projections and I have more clearly explained the point formula I will give my list of top 17 QB's (which will include Pennington) and their total point value after my projected stats have been put through that formula.
Yes, Brooks 3rd. I really wasn't expecting this before I sat down today to work on it, but there he was. Much like Hasselbeck being in my top 3 last season, before I projected it out. That surprised me prior ro last season in my draft prep. We do it auction style.
As you can see, C-Pepp grades out very well at 158 pts (27 pass TD's, 10 projected 200 yard games, 4 rushing TD's, 400 total yards rushing). Manning also grades out well at 134 pts (30 pass TD's, 14 projected 200 yard games, 0 rushing TD's, 24 total rushing yards), however, he doesn't have the ability to run for good yardage or score on the ground that McNabb, C-Pepp and Brooks have. Oh, and Brooks I have at 139 pts (28 pass TD's, 8 projected 200 yard games, 2 rushing TD's, 175 total rushing yards). Look at Brooks more closely and you'll see that I'm not inflating his projected stats, in fact, I may be underestimating his possible stats. The last two seasons he has become much more accurate and each year has cut his interceptions in half. 26, 27 and 24 TD passes the last three seasons, which is consistent. He has the ability to easily rush for more yards than I projected. Last season he avoided the second half fade that before last season had plagued him in his career. In fact, in the last 6 games last year he threw for 11 TD's (8 coming in his final 3 games). His last four games were all 200+ yard passing games. What's not to like, even with Stallworth HOPEFULLY posed for a breakthrough career to go alongside Horn.
As you can see Brady (26,12,1,50), Farve (30,8,0,15) and Green (25,12,1,74) are only seperated by 8 points. Not a lot of room between them.
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