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Postby jmo » Wed Jul 21, 2004 1:50 pm

It seems like breakout players every year played very well in the second half of the prior season. Hasselback and Chad Johnson for example. Anyone know of a good way to look up the second half leaders from last season?
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Postby KingGhidra » Wed Jul 21, 2004 2:14 pm

http://games.espn.go.com/cgi/ffl/reques ... 0&Param3=6

Sortable by week among other things.
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Postby Flux » Wed Jul 21, 2004 2:32 pm

KingGhidra wrote:http://games.espn.go.com/cgi/ffl/reques ... 0&Param3=6

Sortable by week among other things.


espn does have some great features for stats

I made a list of the top 10 for each position from week 11-17 (week 10 was the last week for byes)

QBs
Culpepper
Hasselbeck
McNabb
Brooks
Favre
Green
Manning
Garcia
Kitna
Bulger

RBs
LT
Priest
Edge
Portis
J. Lewis
Faulk
McAllister
A. Green
S. Alexander
Barlow

WRs
Moss
Holt
Boldin
Mason
CJ
D. Jackson
Chambers
TO
M. Robinson
Javon Walker
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Postby steelerfan04 » Wed Jul 21, 2004 6:30 pm

Flux wrote:
KingGhidra wrote:http://games.espn.go.com/cgi/ffl/reques ... 0&Param3=6

Sortable by week among other things.


espn does have some great features for stats

I made a list of the top 10 for each position from week 11-17 (week 10 was the last week for byes)

QBs
Culpepper
Hasselbeck
McNabb
Brooks
Favre
Green
Manning
Garcia
Kitna
Bulger

RBs
LT
Priest
Edge
Portis
J. Lewis
Faulk
McAllister
A. Green
S. Alexander
Barlow

WRs
Moss
Holt
Boldin
Mason
CJ
D. Jackson
Chambers
TO
M. Robinson
Javon Walker


Wow, Edge at #3! I had him last year and while he frustrated me most of the season with injuries he carried my team with some amazing performances the last few weeks.
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Postby Flux » Thu Jul 22, 2004 6:51 am

some of those WRs are actually giving me confidence about why I had some of them higher than other peoples rankings. Pretty interesting to see on some of them
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Postby Gunslinger » Thu Jul 22, 2004 7:04 am

Notice how Harrison is not listed?!? That injury hurt me as well as him last year.
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Postby Free Bagel » Thu Jul 22, 2004 8:15 am

It seems weird to me, but it seems like guys that have a weak first half and great 2nd half are more often busts than guys that do it in reverse.

Willie Green and LT come to mind off the top of my head.

In 2002, Green was great for the last half of the year but came out in 2003, even when he was playing, and flat out sucked.

LT started off his rookie year in amazing fashion, and then faded and had a below average second half, only to bounc back the next year better than ever.
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Postby MadScott » Thu Jul 22, 2004 10:55 pm

Interesting point bagel. Just like any other stat, you can make of it what you wish. One kind of has to take into account the situation that a team was in, did it play against the Sisters of the Poor (SD), were there injuries to other players that scewed these numbers, etc.... That being said, it is a pretty decent indicator of folks to at least look out for. A player like J. Walker I can see having a big upside but I do kind of doubt an M. Robinson.
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Postby Cornbread Maxwell » Fri Jul 23, 2004 10:43 am

MadScott wrote:Interesting point bagel. Just like any other stat, you can make of it what you wish. One kind of has to take into account the situation that a team was in, did it play against the Sisters of the Poor (SD), were there injuries to other players that scewed these numbers, etc.... That being said, it is a pretty decent indicator of folks to at least look out for. A player like J. Walker I can see having a big upside but I do kind of doubt an M. Robinson.


Great point MadScott - one that needs to be repeated. Stats are good indicators, but more importantly they dont tell the story. Why something happened wont show up on a stat sheet - you need to read between the lines.
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Postby steelerfan04 » Fri Jul 23, 2004 2:55 pm

MadScott wrote:Interesting point bagel. Just like any other stat, you can make of it what you wish. One kind of has to take into account the situation that a team was in, did it play against the Sisters of the Poor (SD), were there injuries to other players that scewed these numbers, etc.... That being said, it is a pretty decent indicator of folks to at least look out for. A player like J. Walker I can see having a big upside but I do kind of doubt an M. Robinson.


The only reason Robinson is on there is that 4 TD game he had against Seattle.
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