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Postby tmandpimp » Fri Jul 23, 2004 6:54 pm

for there to be such a drop off after lets say gonzo, heap, and shockey. (with Franks and a few other vets that still try and stay in the hunt) wouldnt you say that grabbing one of these is crucial to get the xtra few points in a solid league of players.
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Postby BGbootha » Fri Jul 23, 2004 7:14 pm

Yes and no. I would agree with the theory here, but compare the drop offs.

gonzo is in a league of his own really. Most of the projections or atleast the ones i have seen show

gonzo 8 TD's 800+Yds

Heap 5 TD's 700+ Yds
Franks 5 TD's 500? yds
I have even seen Boo WIlliams up there with 5 TD's and 500 yds

Once you get past gonzo the difference between second teir (heaps, Franks) there isn't a huge drop off in points.

Ie. There are are close to 14 other TE's who project round 3 TD's and 400+ yrds.


now when you look at other positions. Say RB, You have your obvious top teir (not trying to start a debate with this)

Priest
LT
Portis
Alexander
McAllister
Green
Lewis

Followed pretty closely (relatively)
james
Williams
Barlow
Faulk
Henry
Dillion

Once you get here the drop off is pretty signifiacant (i am sure i am missing a few names)

You would be better off with a middle of the line TE. then a middle of the line RB.


IMO. The same can be held true for WR's as well.
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Postby Free Bagel » Fri Jul 23, 2004 7:18 pm

tmandpimp wrote:for there to be such a drop off after lets say gonzo, heap, and shockey.


As bg said, forget saying there's a huge dropoff after those 3, there's a huge drop off after gonzo. Shockey and especially Heap still to this day are the most overrated fantasy players in my mind.

Gonzo is the only TE I would consider taking early.
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Postby tmandpimp » Fri Jul 23, 2004 7:36 pm

no shockey lovers huh.. i think if kurt can get it together they will get him the ball a ton. possibly even gonzoish numbers and td's.....if that fool can hold onto the ball (MNF flashbacks)
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Postby Wolverine » Fri Jul 23, 2004 9:29 pm

Shockey = Gonzo-like numbers without the TD's = not worth a 4-5th round draft pick
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Postby Manja » Sat Jul 24, 2004 12:18 am

Isn't Shockey going to miss some time?
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Postby aussieboy » Sat Jul 24, 2004 12:37 am

There's been many a heated discussion regarding this topic. A search should come up with some nice posts.

Gonzo generally goes in the mid to late 3rd round.

Shockey can be had usually by the end of the 5th or early 6th. If you can get him in the 6th I think thats a steal.
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Postby Warpigs » Sat Jul 24, 2004 12:42 am

bgbootha wrote:Yes and no. I would agree with the theory here, but compare the drop offs.

gonzo is in a league of his own really. Most of the projections or atleast the ones i have seen show

gonzo 8 TD's 800+Yds

Heap 5 TD's 700+ Yds
Franks 5 TD's 500? yds
I have even seen Boo WIlliams up there with 5 TD's and 500 yds

Once you get past gonzo the difference between second teir (heaps, Franks) there isn't a huge drop off in points.

Ie. There are are close to 14 other TE's who project round 3 TD's and 400+ yrds.


now when you look at other positions. Say RB, You have your obvious top teir (not trying to start a debate with this)

Priest
LT
Portis
Alexander
McAllister
Green
Lewis

Followed pretty closely (relatively)
james
Williams
Barlow
Faulk
Henry
Dillion

Once you get here the drop off is pretty signifiacant (i am sure i am missing a few names)

You would be better off with a middle of the line TE. then a middle of the line RB.


IMO. The same can be held true for WR's as well.


This is about the best way to state it. In a fantasy baseball analogy, there isn't much talent at 2b after Soriano and Boone (and even both these guys are struggling). Getting either will cost you an arm and a leg, so it isn't worth it, and after them, you can wait a little while to get a serviceable starter.
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Postby MadScott » Sat Jul 24, 2004 1:42 am

Based on my team last year, having a Shockey in the lineup certainly assured me of winning that position. Depending on your draft position, I think that you have to tailor your picks to what is available. I got Shockey either in the 5th or 6th round last year (I was the last pick in the draft so I had back to backs). I truly believe if healthy, he and Gonzo are in the same class, with Heap and Winslow potentially making the jump up. Just see what's on the board when you draft.
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Postby Azrael » Sat Jul 24, 2004 2:43 pm

Manja wrote:Isn't Shockey going to miss some time?


He should be ready sometime during training camp. He shouldn't miss any games.
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