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Postby ScreamingWeasel » Tue Feb 25, 2003 8:30 pm

You know those baseball games?
The ones where you got this pitcher that checks first, lifts his cap, kicks dirt, checks second, walks off the mound, walks back to the mound, nods to the catcher, adjusts his jock, scratches his butt, checks first again, rubs the ball, nods again, thinks about it, and finally ... finally pitches for ball one?

WHAT'S the deal with Peyton Manning and the audibles?
It's the same dang deal.
IT'S CHINESE WATER TORTURE! :-o

This thing of Peyton audibling on EVERY play is completely out of control.
Once you actually notice it, it's like a dripping faucet.
It will drive you crazy.

And, my question is, is this actually HURTING the Colts?
I mean, the clock goes down to "zero" on every play.
Every play.
In the 4th quarter, the Colts's opponent's "D" is as fresh as a daisy!

Is it just me?
Or has anyone else noticed this?
And, more importantly, has Tony Dungy noticed this?
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Postby Dazedncnfz » Tue Feb 25, 2003 8:59 pm

oh I have noticed this!...and we will see in a few short months if Tony noticed it too and says....STOP F______G AUDIBLEING!!!!!!....
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Postby Slingblade » Tue Feb 25, 2003 9:29 pm

Manning has passed for over 4000yds 4 consecutive years...Usually makes the playoffs...i dont see whats wrong with the audibleing(spelling?). he just did bab this year because he had no running game
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Postby SiouxCitySavages » Tue Feb 25, 2003 10:34 pm

There is nothin wrong with his audible because half the time he is just bluffing the defense and most of his hand signals mean nothing......I agree that he should not do it that much but it is an important part of his game.....I agree with Sling, he needs a running game
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Postby zombiez » Wed Feb 26, 2003 12:10 am

actually Manning looks like a mooron no matter what he does.....but if the guy throws for 4000 yards he is doin something right
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Postby ScreamingWeasel » Wed Feb 26, 2003 6:40 am

But does it, in the end, help the Colts more, or their opponent?

I know Peyton's getting the yards.
But watching the Colts at the end of last season - I noticed their opponent's D standing around fresh as a daisy late in the game. They'd had so much time to rest between plays all day long.

Seems like you need to wear down the D, then uncork to Marvin Harrison late.
I'm starting to think it's keeping the Colts, as a team, from getting to the next level.
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Postby Indy Dragons » Wed Feb 26, 2003 7:08 am

A couple of years ago, the offense used a no-huddle many times, and they scored more points, BUT the biggest problem with the Colts is their Defense. Until their Defense is better, they will not reach the next level, no matter what Manning does.

Most of Manning's manuevering is too throw the defense off-guard, but since most defenses now know that it is just 'fake', it does nothing to the defense. It is not hard to figure an offense that 1) looks to Harrison, then if not open 2) runs up the middle.
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Postby Homeless » Wed Feb 26, 2003 9:37 am

I have to agree with the part about running the play clock down, but I tend to think the Colts problems are due mostly to their D and lack of season finishing power from the offence.
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Postby chaindog35 » Wed Feb 26, 2003 10:25 am

Yeah, it's tough to pin the Colts problems on Manning. It's important for him to have the opportunity to audible. Gannon audibles all of the time and it works for him. The main diffference between Manning and Gannon are these:

(1) Gannon is a bit smarter and studies harder
(2) Gannon has a viable running game in Garner, while Indy has nothing at this point.
(3) Gannon has two hall of fame wr and jerry porter (who would be a #1 on many teams) as his wrs, manning has 1 future hall-of-famer and then no one.
(4) The Raiders defense is stronger than paper, the Colts is not.
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Postby kashikis » Wed Feb 26, 2003 11:51 am

the fact that the colts have to pass due to a lack of running game and need to score because their D cant stop anyone from scoring (although they got better this year) makes his audibles a near necessity. if your only option is to throw then you have to pick plays that best exploit the defense in front of you because god knows when you'll get another shot and how many MORE points youll be down by. So while i still think he does it a bit much i understand why he does it. i just thinkj if your already strapped for time dont milk the clock on every play!!
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