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Postby hawksfan896 » Sun Aug 22, 2004 7:43 pm

Canadian_Cheesehead wrote:
Mercer Boy wrote:Green is the focus of the Packers offense at this point. Everything starts with him. I see no reason for him not to repeat last year's success. The fumble problem is going away slowly (only 6 last year), so that will reduce some of his negative poitns. I have him ranked 3rd for this year!


And no fumbles since he took of the black armbands!


LOL is that true? I remember Madden harping on it during MNF, but I just figured he was drunk again.
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Postby CC » Sun Aug 22, 2004 7:44 pm

Its true. ;-D
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Postby The Guru » Sun Aug 22, 2004 7:46 pm

Career Stats
Career Stats Rushing Receiving Fumbles
Season Team G Rush Yds Y/G Avg TD Rec Yds Y/G Avg Lng YAC 1stD TD Fum FumL
1998 Seattle 16 35 209 13.1 6.0 1 3 2 0.1 0.7 3 6.7 0 0 1 1
1999 Seattle 14 26 120 8.6 4.6 0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0
2000 Green Bay 16 263 1175 73.4 4.5 10 73 559 34.9 7.7 31 7.3 29 3 6 4
2001 Green Bay 16 304 1387 86.7 4.6 9 62 594 37.1 9.6 42 9.3 24 2 5 4
2002 Green Bay 14 286 1240 88.6 4.3 7 57 393 28.1 6.9 23 6.7 19 2 4 3
2003 Green Bay 16 355 1883 117.7 5.3 15 50 367 22.9 7.3 27 8.2 19 5 7 5
Career 92 1269 6014 65.4 4.7 42 245 1915 20.8 7.8 42 7.9 91 12 23 17


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Green should have a very similar season to last years numbers.

I have Green as a keeper so I've done alot of research on him.

2000 - 13 total tds
2001 - 11 total tds
2002 - 9 total tds (only 14 games)
2003 - 20 total tds

Carries per year:
2000 - 263
2001 - 304
2002 - 286 (only 14 games)
2003 - 355

It's simple when Ahman Green gets the carries he puts up the numbers.

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Passing Attempts:
2000 - 580
2001 - 510
2002 - 551
2003 - 471

Last year Green Bay took the team away from Favre and gave it too Green. They were limiting his passing attempts, which increases Green's Carries.

So when Favre is throwing in the 20s and low 30s of passing attempts then Green will be getting his 20-25 carries per game.

If Favre is throwing in the high 30s and 40s (like he used to do) then Green will be getting only 15-20 carries per games.

Last year Greeen Bay changed there offense and focused it around Green. They know Favre's best years are behind him and will continue this year focusing around Green.

I see Green putting up very similiar numbers this year as he did in 2003.
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Postby Mercer Boy » Sun Aug 22, 2004 7:49 pm

I just had a thought...I wonder if because Favre's thumb was all messed up that they geared everything more towards Ahman to take the pressure off of Favre?

I wonder if they will return to the old style of play with Favre tossing it all over the place... :-o

My guess is no since Ahman did so well last year; they should be able to count on him to produce!
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Postby Wesley Walker » Sun Aug 22, 2004 7:52 pm

1. Green's yards/carry were .6 higher than his career average last year (his total rush yards were 600 higher than his career average).

2. This year defenses will go into games knowing that Ahman is the offense now.

Two reasons why I doubt he can achieve those numbers again.
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Postby The Guru » Sun Aug 22, 2004 7:59 pm

Wesley Walker wrote:1. Green's yards/carry were .6 higher than his career average last year (his total rush yards were 600 higher than his career average).

2. This year defenses will go into games knowing that Ahman is the offense now.

Two reasons why I doubt he can achieve those numbers again.

1. Yes that is true. It could be because of alot of reasons. His O-line was one of the best in the NFL last year. Because he got the carries he wore teams down by the end of the game, thus increasing his ypc.

2. With the packers horrible and injury ridden WRing core last year, defenses did focus on trying to stop Green. It didn't work.

With Green Bays O-line let defenses try to focus on trying to stop Green, it still won't matter.

Also note Brett Favre's td's totals in the last 2 years:
2002: 27
2003: 32
-So giving the ball to Green more times per game helped Favre produce better also.
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Postby CC » Sun Aug 22, 2004 8:00 pm

Teams already knew Ahman was the offence. Favre takes a backseat to Ahman most of the time, but everyone knows whose hands the ball will be in when the game is on the line.
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Postby portisfan24 » Sun Aug 22, 2004 8:00 pm

last year I was really low on ahman and it really backfired. i think he will repeat latst years numbers, but it will be tough to improve on them
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Postby KingGhidra » Sun Aug 22, 2004 8:20 pm

Ahman is my second favorite RB in the league next to LT. No one runs tougher than he does. He makes Lewis and the Bettis of old look timid if you ask me. He's an elusive running back with the mentality of a battering ram. Since he solved the fumble problem, I see no reason for him to not be top 3 for years to come.
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Postby BlitzBoyz » Sun Aug 22, 2004 9:29 pm

I'm not sure Favre's thumb will ever be completely right again, it's kinda like Warner's. They're not asking Favre to carry the team like he did earlier, Green is in that role and Favre will spread the ball around off the running game.

And everyone knew Green was the game plan last year, and no one could stop him, what has changed since? I seriously doubt he improves, maybe even a bit less than last year - but that would still be a damn solid season.
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