Cornbread Maxwell wrote:Free Bagel wrote:I was gonna let this die, but seriously dude, I like how you discount any RB that flopped when not in a "good situation," but ANY RB that exceeded you say was in a good situation, lmfao.
Since when is 3rd string on a team in its second year with a dreadful O-line a good situation (DD)?
Would you consider Tatum Bell to be in a good situation? He's in a much better situation than Portis was...
Yup - situation determines production.
DDavis - didnt he get the starting job only after week 6 or so when the other RBs got injured? Seems like situation determining production to me. Their Oline I wouldnt say was dreadful either. Also - he was shut down by some serious defenses and excelled against poor defenses - would you call that situation determining performace too? I would.
Tatum Bell - no - not with Griffin leading the way. I can see him taking over and being in a wonderful situation in DEN, but not unless Griffin chokes - something I dont see happenning. Griffin is in a great situation though. Theres an example of two guys who play the same position on the same team having different situations - uh oh.
You clearly said RB's put into situations of
Immediate Impact.
See this is your biggest problem with your whole arguement. Hindsight is 20/20, we're looking at rookies here, you can't honestly look back and say DD was drafted into a good situation because you knew the #1 and #2 rb's were gonna go down hurt by week 6...give me a freaking break.
Also you discredit some RB's from my list as not being in a "good situation" because they were on bad teams, yet you count Dillon and his Bengals, the Colts of the mid-90's, the Texans, etc etc.
As for:
Tatum Bell - no - not with Griffin leading the way. I can see him taking over and being in a wonderful situation in DEN, but not unless Griffin chokes - something I dont see happenning. Griffin is in a great situation though. Theres an example of two guys who play the same position on the same team having different situations - uh oh.
Doesn't this sound awfully familiar? Wasn't Portis a 2nd round speed back with fumble problems drafted by the Broncos and not set as the starter by this point? He didn't start until week 3. The only difference is Denver LOST their starting RB this year, but didn't the year Portis was drafted, which seems to put Bell in a BETTER "situation".
The point is you can't say what a good situation for RB's is, because all you've done is look back and found good RB's, then blindly proclaimed they were in a good situation just because they did well whether they actually were or not.
ANyhow, I don't want to pollute this thread with any more off-topic garbage, so I'm not responding to anymore of your topsy-turvy "hey I can make a good pick if I already know the future" stuff.
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by allmotorjunkie » Tue Aug 24, 2004 2:42 pm 
Eddie is done and J. Jones has looked great and Billy P loves the kid. He'll be the man by week 3 or 4 imo.
