I don't think many people are expecting TO to outperform Moss and/or Harrison. I'm thrilled about TO this year, but I still think both will do better. It's a question of whether or not he's better than Holt.
Before the pre-season I'd have taken Holt before TO in a heartbeat. However, the injuries keep piling up for St. Louis. The loss of Turley really hurts, among others. And this becomes crucial because Bulger is not a good NFL QB. Fantasy football he's a top 10 easily, but he's going to see a lot more pressure, and the team in general has just gotten worse. They won't be able to rely on the defense as much, and their weapons got older (Bruce), and broke (Faulk). Holt is ever so slightly in my opinion below TO. However, I'd gladly take either one near the end of the 2nd round.
For what its worth - the McNabb to Owens connection has looked subpar this preseason. 0 for 8 attempts to TO in their last game. Over 5 quarters played so far and only 4 balls caught. The long TD they connected for gets all the highlights, but they really haven't been in sync so far.
Holt, on the other hand, picked right up where he left off - catching 9 balls for 160 yards and a TD in less than 3 quarters last time out.
I think TO will put up respectable numbers, but nothing like Harrison or possibly even Holt. He doesn't have a supporting cast out there, so he'll be getting double teams etc. Holt at least has Bruce, while Harrison has some solid sub-WR and TE assistance.
Still, one really doesn't know how the season will turn out until it's over. If TO falls in your lap late 2nd, early 3rd, I would agree with the others and take a chance on him and his record.
Since when wasn't TO getting double teams? If anything the pressure on the defense to spy a running threat at QB should make coverage harder. Pinkston and Mitchell aren't world beaters by any means, but I fail to see how they aren't much different from Tai Streets (currently #3-4 in Detroit) and an elderly JJ Stokes (cut).
Unless teams weren't doubling him in SanFran, which would really explain how their passing game was so dominant the past few years.
I don't think TO is going to have as good of a year as people expect. I'm not sure I agree that McNabb is a better quarterback than Garcia. He could be a bit more dangerous because of all his physical tools but I don't think he's near as accurate as Garcia.
His easy bread basket catch against Fred Baxter gets way too much hype. That's the only catch he's had in over a game's worth of playing time. Plus he's dropped 2 or 3 balls as usual. I think McNabb will benefit more by having TO around than TO will by having McNabb around.
How can a guy who is less accurate be better?
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Plindsey88 wrote:T.O. can benefit because McNabb is a better quarterback than Garcia... He can benefit b/c the Eagles are a better TEAM than San Francisco... He can benefit because he's the only go-to-guy in Philly... And he can benefit b/c the Eagles did not go to all the trouble of acquiring him to not use him A LOT... Is he above Harrison? No. Is he above Holt? Well, IMO, he might be... Everything in the offseason has worked against Torry Holt, who had a career year last year, but has never posted numbers that high before... Everything in the offseason worked in favor of T.O. who had a down year last year, but still put up top WR numbers, and has been an elite WR for years...
Honestly, I think points wise it'll be close this year, but Holt is being taken in the early 2nd round in most drafts, and T.O. can be had in the third... That is what you call MUCH better value...
So, you can be down on T.O. if you like, but pick for pick give me Barlow and T.O. over Torry Holt and Thomas Jones anyday...
McNabb is a better athlete than Garcia, but not a better quarterback. Since when does being a good team necessarily affect your fantasy status? Tomlinson was the #2 fantasy RB last year on the worst team in the league. Boldin wasn't exactly on a great team, but he made the Pro Bowl. Who cares if the Eagles are better than San Fran? True, the's the only go-to guy in Philly. Guess what? He was in San Fran too. Azrael made a good point. The McNabb/Owens connection has been far from spectacular so far if you take away that one play where Ray Lewis got so full of himself that he told Baxter to play the slant so they would have a better chance of taking Owens' head off. Lewis was more concerned with putting the big hit on Owens than having the defense cover him. Plus I've seen Owens drop a few, and I've seen McNabb short-hop a few already.
Owens is still a top WR, but I have him ranked below Moss, Harrison, Holt, Ward and Chad Johnson.
bagobonez wrote:McNabb is a better athlete than Garcia, but not a better quarterback.
I agree with this. Everybody only seems to remember Garcia's stats from last year. Look at his stats from 2000 - 2002.
In 2000, Garcia had 4278 passing yards, 63.3 completion percentage, 31 passing TDs, 414 rushing yards and 4 rushing TDs. McNabb has never even came close to that. Granted, right now McNabb is a probably a better option than Garcia, but no way is he a better option than Garcia was from 2000-2002.
The way San Fran's system back then was designed around the pass, I think it will be foolish to expect Owens' numbers from those years to be repeated in a Philly system that's so conducive to the run.