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Postby Dr. Duran Duran » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:34 pm

Tuck rule...give me a break. You're out of your mind if you think that wasn't a fumble. Also, the Patriots were so out of line, they did ask for the rules to be enforced all the more. What the Pats did to Indy in the playoffs was ridiculous. With just two minutes left, and down by only 7, Pollard got held and missed what would have been a 20 yard gain for a first down. Check the replay.

I'm not a whining Colts fan. When Pittsburgh beat us in the 1995 AFC Championship game 20-16, I didn't whine. I actually rooted for the Steelers in the Super Bowl. They deserved to be there. I can't say the same for the Pats.
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Postby HunglikeChampions » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:39 pm

Dr. Duran Duran wrote:Tuck rule...give me a break. You're out of your mind if you think that wasn't a fumble. Also, the Patriots were so out of line, they did ask for the rules to be enforced all the more. What the Pats did to Indy in the playoffs was ridiculous. With just two minutes left, and down by only 7, Pollard got held and missed what would have been a 20 yard gain for a first down. Check the replay.

I'm not a whining Colts fan. When Pittsburgh beat us in the 1995 AFC Championship game 20-16, I didn't whine. I actually rooted for the Steelers in the Super Bowl. They deserved to be there. I can't say the same for the Pats.


Guess I am out of my mind, becasue that wasnt a fumble, it was right in the rule book and yes it may be a bad rule, but it was still the way it goes. As far as last year, I second the other guy BOO HOO. The pats luck has gotten beat into the ground by people here. The fact is, they have had some luck....95% of the time to win the superbowl you need some luck....and the fact is..The pats are good...

The pats are also going to win tonight:)
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Postby nsulham » Thu Sep 09, 2004 2:03 pm

Dr. Duran Duran wrote:Tuck rule...give me a break. You're out of your mind if you think that wasn't a fumble. Also, the Patriots were so out of line, they did ask for the rules to be enforced all the more. What the Pats did to Indy in the playoffs was ridiculous. With just two minutes left, and down by only 7, Pollard got held and missed what would have been a 20 yard gain for a first down. Check the replay.

I'm not a whining Colts fan. When Pittsburgh beat us in the 1995 AFC Championship game 20-16, I didn't whine. I actually rooted for the Steelers in the Super Bowl. They deserved to be there. I can't say the same for the Pats.


Since you're checking the tape, go back and see how much NE could have and should have won by. They let Indy back into that game when they could have won handily.

As far as the holding goes, sorry. NE got away with it, Indy wasn't smart enough to do the same. If the refs are going to allow it, then it's legal. If they wanted to enforce they could have, but didn't. I've even heard Manning say NE was smart because they did it when then refs were allowing it and he's more upset because Indy didn't do it themselves.

Don't blame the refs or the Pats, blame the Colts for not taking advantage of the situation.

As far as this game goes, I'm pretty worried because I guarantee with the microscope on them, opening game and all, the officials will blow the whistle on even the ticky-tackiest of calls. A lot of people have said this rule was made because of the Patriots so naturally, the Pat defenders are going to have a giant target on their backs.

I think Manning could very easily shake off whatever his problem is with the Pats with this new rule but in the end, the Colts defense, particularly their secondary, should get ripped up by Brady and company.
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Postby Dr. Duran Duran » Thu Sep 09, 2004 2:16 pm

Well, I guess everyone will be arguing the tuck rule for all time. I guess the Colts should have stooped down to the level of the Patriots in the AFC Championship, to even the odds. I just don't abide by the whole "eye for an eye" crap. The Patriots cheated and got away with it. I don't believe in cheating back, just to even the odds. In any case, I want all Patriots fans to know, I'm not saying the Pats aren't a great team. They are one of the finest teams I've ever watched. I would just like to see the two play a fair game.
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Postby IRON CHEF » Thu Sep 09, 2004 6:17 pm

I know that I was thinking fumble as soon as Brady got hit, and I haven't changed my opinion. I can't imagine how pissed I would be over it if I was a Raiders fan.

The raping of the Indy receivers may have been unfair but I think New England had that game regardless.
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Postby Brady4prez » Thu Sep 09, 2004 9:44 pm

Dr. Duran Duran wrote:Well, I guess everyone will be arguing the tuck rule for all time. I guess the Colts should have stooped down to the level of the Patriots in the AFC Championship, to even the odds. I just don't abide by the whole "eye for an eye" crap. The Patriots cheated and got away with it. I don't believe in cheating back, just to even the odds. In any case, I want all Patriots fans to know, I'm not saying the Pats aren't a great team. They are one of the finest teams I've ever watched. I would just like to see the two play a fair game.


Football isn't a fair game. If you want to watch a fair game, go watch baseball(which I do love, also). The saying, "If you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'", should be applied to football. Did you know that holding happens of EVERY play. Go watch a replay of a game, and you'll see holding happens on almost every play. You just have to keep your hands to the inside, so the refs can't see it.

I saw maybe 2-3 plays that should of been called def. pass interference in the Colts/Pats game. The other plays that people are complaining about were within 5 yards, which your allowed to bump the guy as much as you want. I admit, that Pollard hold should of been called, but it wasn't.....is that the Pat's fault?

So they're not playing fair? They should just let Marvin Harrison go over the top of them, and score 3-4-5 times a game? NO! You knock him on his ass, and play extremely physical with him. If you don't understand that, then you don't know football.

The Colts could of tried to be physical with New England, but they don't really have the personnel for that. They have a bend but don't break type of defense, where New England's defense is out there trying to cause turnovers, and intimidate offenses.

And the whole tuck thing was just stupid. People act like that was the reason they won. They still had drive the rest of the field to score. Personally, I don't think that was a fumble according to the RULES, but I can understand why people could misunderstand it.
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Postby Members Only Jackets_ffc » Thu Sep 09, 2004 11:11 pm

Nice Sack Manning! Jeeez.
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Postby IRON CHEF » Thu Sep 09, 2004 11:12 pm

Wrong forum MOJ.

Well it looks like its time for Indy to put on the bags. :-B
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Postby foam » Thu Sep 09, 2004 11:21 pm

First bags of the season hehe...
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Postby portisfan24 » Thu Sep 09, 2004 11:24 pm

well Ill be the first to say New England didnt play that great tonight. doesnt matter though a win is a win.
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