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Postby Dr. Duran Duran » Mon Sep 20, 2004 2:54 pm

I shouldn't have to even bring this up, but keep in mind Harrison's company. He's no longer the only guy capable of catching passes there. When it was him alongside guys like E.G. Green, Torrance Small and Jerome Pathon, Harrison got the lion's share of the catches. Now he's alongside Reggie Wayne, Brandon Stokley and Dallas Clark. What do you expect? He's sharing passes with much better recievers, hence the reason he's not the focal point of the passing attack.
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Postby Cornbread Maxwell » Mon Sep 20, 2004 3:04 pm

BigMusky wrote:If you guys really think his average is going to stay around 8.5 ypc then you are all retarded.


Of course no one thinks that. Name calling isnt necessary either. If you want to read the thread and post a helpful message that might shed a new perspective on this subject, I welcome that.
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Postby Steve_Mac9 » Mon Sep 20, 2004 3:15 pm

Cornbread Maxwell wrote:
BigMusky wrote:If you guys really think his average is going to stay around 8.5 ypc then you are all retarded.


Of course no one thinks that. Name calling isnt necessary either. If you want to read the thread and post a helpful message that might shed a new perspective on this subject, I welcome that.


Amen to that ...
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Postby BigMusky » Mon Sep 20, 2004 4:39 pm

last week I did shed some info....and now I am hearing about this again. Randy Moss and Terrell Owens have not broken 100 yards yet this year, but they got a bunch of little dinky TD's and no one is saying that they are possession receivers. The fact that Colts will do anything to get Harrison the ball, even run him on shorter routes when the deep ball is denied just shows how much of a focal point he is. Remember they just played the Patriots and Titans on the road. If he does not blow up this week against the Packers in the dome then I will eat my words.
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Postby Kensat30 » Mon Sep 20, 2004 6:36 pm

If you look at the stats alone, Marvin Harrison has looked a lot like Rod Smith in the first two games this year. Does that make Marvin Harrison a possession WR? Looking at the factors behind the stats, I don't think this is necessarily the case at all.

First and most importantly, The Colts have perhaps the toughest early 2004 schedule in the NFL with games against the Pats, Titans, and Packers back to back to back. In the first two games, Harrison has had a very pedestrian yards per catch average simply based on the type of production they've needed out of Marvin.

We're not used to seeing Harrison used solely on slants, hooks, and crossing patterns within 5-10 yards because Marvin is such an excellent all around WR. But if you consider how and when Marvin is being used it makes a lot of sense in what they are doing.

When you need a guaranteed play, goto the sure hands: Marvin. When you want to take a shot at something bigger on 2nd down, shift the attention away from Harrison and target Wayne and Co. In such tight games, it just doesn't make sense to take chances on throwing the deep post, fade, fly to Marvin on every other series. The Colt's need someone to make a "tough" (Harrison makes it look easy) 8 yard catch to keep the chains moving. If it wasn't for Harrinson, NO ONE would be getting deep looks period.

It's real easy to post 10 ypc when you are getting tackled as soon as you catch the ball and only get 2 or 3 opportunities to run deep routes per game. Don't assume that Marvin still doesn't have that ability (see 35 yard sideline catch). All it takes is one 40 yard catch to change 10ypc into a 14ypc. All it takes is one 40 yard catch to turn a 50/1 statline into a 90/2.

If you think the Colt's are going to play conservative against Kansas City, Minnesota, Houston, and San Diego..... trade Marvin now.

My advice, be patient with Marvin and take the guaranteed 10 points a week against tough opponents, because when he gets a chance to bump that average back up to where it should be, he's going to win you some matchups.
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