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Postby Sp_Da_Man » Wed Sep 29, 2004 8:38 am

Thanks for the input guys. From the sounds of things it a 50/50 split.
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Postby Manja » Wed Sep 29, 2004 9:33 am

Which really isn't helping your decision. :-b I'd pick C-Mart, for all of the reasons the others stated (the good ones, that is).
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Postby 34=Sweetness » Wed Sep 29, 2004 9:40 am

This is really a tossup. But, TJ will be the focus of the offense, while the Jets have the luxury of Pennington to Moss/McCareins, while we have The Mighty Quinn to Terrell/Wade ( :-o ). It could be really close, but I think Jones will see more carries and get the better numbers.
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Postby Cornbread Maxwell » Wed Sep 29, 2004 9:49 am

Im just happy to see a bunch of guys admitting its a toss up. There really is nothing about either at this point that makes me say he's the one.

I really dont think the loss of Grossman is going to affect TJones all that much - it basically weighs the same in my mind as CMarts age factor.

Basically what Im sayin is flip a coin.
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Postby Wesley Walker » Wed Sep 29, 2004 9:58 am

This Sunday is a bi test for Jones -- against Philly.

C-Mart goes up against Miami. I'm not sure how good their run D is anymore, but it's not as good as Philly's.

So delay.

For the record: Philly is allowing about 108 rushing yards per game to RBs, and .6 TDs, as well as a good hamdful of receiving yards to RBs.

Miami is allowing 143 rushing yards per game to opposing RBs, but no TDs.
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Postby Diablo13 » Wed Sep 29, 2004 10:22 am

Wesley Walker wrote:This Sunday is a bi test for Jones -- against Philly.

C-Mart goes up against Miami. I'm not sure how good their run D is anymore, but it's not as good as Philly's.

So delay.

For the record: Philly is allowing about 108 rushing yards per game to RBs, and .6 TDs, as well as a good hamdful of receiving yards to RBs.

Miami is allowing 143 rushing yards per game to opposing RBs, but no TDs.



However............

Miami's opponents are rushing the ball an average of 34.3 times a game with an average run of 4.2
Philly opponents are running the ball an average of 20.00 times a game for an average run of 5.4

What makes it interesting and furthers the spirit of this post is that C-mart averages 30.5 carries a game and averages 157.5 ypg. T.J. averages 22 carries with a 109.7 YPG .These stats are interesting (wesley walker) because they almost mirror what their upcoming opponents are allowing.

To the original post, this upcoming week might not be the best indicator of who to go with. C-mart has success in the past where T.J. has had very little. But you aren't gonna win games on past performances. So, with that said, don't take this as advice if you don't wish...but! If "I" were "you," I would be more likely to hang on to T.J.
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Postby Diablo13 » Wed Sep 29, 2004 10:27 am

Sorry, forgot to insert the whole point of my previous post....LOL!

The stats, going PURELY by this seasons statistics:

C-Mart should run for 128.1 yds and 1.0 TD's v. Mia.
T.J. should run for 108 yds and 1.33 TD's v. Phi.

Again, from a purely statistical perspective.
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Postby no1cowboysfan » Wed Sep 29, 2004 11:22 am

[quote="Kensat30"]Unless you absolutely have to make a deal this week, I would put this one on the back burner. In another week, we'll see how much effect the loss of Grossman will have on the Bear's and Thomas Jones. Remember how horribly awful the Bear's were last season behind Kordell Stewart? Gotta wait and see on that one.[quote]

Toss up aside, this is probably the preferrable option.
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Postby Dr. Duran Duran » Wed Sep 29, 2004 11:53 am

I gotta admit, this is a tough question to answer. I'm going to go with Martin. His history predicates that he always gets the job done, even in tough situations. Martin always seems to come through, although the TD totals last season were disappointing. Doesn't seem to be a problem this year!

Jones looks great in Chi-town, but I don't think Grossman's injury will help him much. Teams may focus more on stopping TJ since Quinn is largely untested as a QB. Still, TJ has looked good, but I'm prone to go with the proven commodity, and that's Curtis Martin.
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Postby JimmyChoi » Wed Sep 29, 2004 12:19 pm

I don't think Jones is a fly by night back...I think he has real talent...Grossman being out does make things interesting......I give the edge to Jones.....but both are capable backs....
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