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Postby t-love » Fri Jun 27, 2003 10:37 am

ScreamingWeasel wrote:The complete package and way, way, WAY underused at Seattle.

Wk 1: 13 carries 36 yrds. (against Oakland!!!) 0 rushing Tds
Wk 2: 17 carries 37 yrds. (against Arizona) 0 Tds
Wk ?: 14 carries 37 yrds. (against Giants) 0 Tds
Wk ?: 12 carries 30 yrds. (agains Rams) 0 Tds
Wk ?: 19 carries 67 yrds. (against Wash.) 0 Tds
Wk ?: 11 carries 18 yrds. (against Denver) 0 Tds

He wasn't consistent enough for me last year. If a guy gets the ball 17 times and doesn't get over 40 yards, then he's probably had enough touches. A lot of people lokk at his end of year stats and drool, but if you look at his game by game stats it makes you think twice about biting on him. He will not win a team a championship. (sorry about t he week messup, the place where I got the stats had typos.)
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Postby ScreamingWeasel » Fri Jun 27, 2003 11:09 am

t-love wrote:
ScreamingWeasel wrote:The complete package and way, way, WAY underused at Seattle.

Wk 1: 13 carries 36 yrds. (against Oakland!!!) 0 rushing Tds
Wk 2: 17 carries 37 yrds. (against Arizona) 0 Tds
Wk ?: 14 carries 37 yrds. (against Giants) 0 Tds
Wk ?: 12 carries 30 yrds. (agains Rams) 0 Tds
Wk ?: 19 carries 67 yrds. (against Wash.) 0 Tds
Wk ?: 11 carries 18 yrds. (against Denver) 0 Tds

This is exactly what I'm talking about!
11 carries? 13 carries?
If I was the head coach of the Seattle Seahawks, Shaun Alexander would be getting 25-30 carries a game.
Week in. Week out. And let teams game plan around that.
Just imagine the Chargers using L.T. 11 times a game!
Foolish.
You play to your strengths.
And Alexander is the strength of this team.
But Holmgren insists on running a WCO without the players to do it.
Exactly what I'm talking about.
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Postby Nfl Fan » Fri Jun 27, 2003 12:03 pm

Poobah....

Great read!! Thanks.
I'm completely pumped about Alexander this year.
We're a TD only league with bonus for distance.

and...

my brand new #37 jersey ($34.95 on e-bay) will ;-D
play quite nicely at our draft and the 'Hawks first game!!

Go Shaun!!!!!!



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Postby t-love » Fri Jun 27, 2003 3:47 pm

If he is so good then why was he averaging less than 3 yards a carry against some of the worst defenses last year. I would stop giving the ball to him too if he couldnt get 3 yards a carry after about 10-15 carries. If he would perform conssitently then he would get the ball consistently.
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Postby columbo » Fri Jun 27, 2003 4:32 pm

I agree with t-love, if I gave him the ball 13 times for only 36 yds why would I give it to him another 13 times.
Not sure whether to blame the o-line or shaun but the guy does have some moves. I expect him to have a 15 td year.
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Postby ScreamingWeasel » Fri Jun 27, 2003 4:56 pm

t-love wrote:If he is so good then why was he averaging less than 3 yards a carry against some of the worst defenses last year. I would stop giving the ball to him too if he couldnt get 3 yards a carry after about 10-15 carries. If he would perform conssitently then he would get the ball consistently.

Because no less than Barry Sanders was exactly this same kind of runner.
Barry would have negative yardage at halftime!
You keep feeding him the ball, and eventually he breaks the Big One.
Twice. Then three times.
At the end of the day? 200 yards and a couplea TDs.
As opposed to Hasselbeck dink passing to some TE?
Give me Shaun Alexander with 30 attempts.
Any day.
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Postby t-love » Sat Jun 28, 2003 1:23 pm

Different type of RB. Speed can sometimes surprise a defense. Alexander isn't exactly a fast RB. Seattle also had other players who could win a game. Detroits only hope was Sanders. If Detroit had other stars, then they would have went away from him after so many nagative carries. Did Detroit ever win anything big?
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Postby thee all » Sat Jun 28, 2003 3:07 pm

No, but they did have an outstanding back, as do the seahawks

I agree, they need to get him MUCH more carries...no matter what shape the O line is in. Just look at Ricky Williams, crappy O line, phenomenal rushing stats.

This year, Holmgren should learn from his mistakes, roll with the 4-2 finish from last year, and keep giving this kid the ball. If the first 3 weeks Shaun only puts up minimal numbers, BUT you see him carry 20-25+ times a game, I would definately not give up on him. As long as he gest the carries, he's gonna produce. End of story.
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Postby NegauneeMiners3-peat » Sat Jun 28, 2003 4:20 pm

Here's why I will never give up on Shaun Alexander. Being a maize and blue blooded University of Michigan fan, I have seen plenty of highly touted backs held to next to nothing against the Wolverines. But there was Shaun Alexander in the Orange Bowl his senior year busting through for a 50+ yard TD. The run was the longest Michigan had ever given up. The second longest was by Shaun Alexander three years earlier as a freshman in the Alamo Bowl. He played Michigan twice in his college career and owns the two longest rushing TDs. That's good enough for me. He is welcome on the Miners roster any year.
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Postby Da Rook » Sat Jun 28, 2003 4:20 pm

I am loving Shawn this season as a Top 3 RB, behind LT and Marshall. I think Prtis falls just short of this group due to the lack of TD's. And what about Tricky Ricky you ask? Well the Preditor look-like is going down this season. His overwork will lead him to injury. Sorry Fish Fans!!!
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