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Postby warrick95 » Tue Oct 05, 2004 3:39 pm

Taylor has been pretty ineffective in short yardage situations. Couple that to this news that just came in:

Greg Jones - RB - Jaguars Buy Jaguars Tickets


Greg Jones has likely replaced Marc Edwards as Jacksonville's starting fullback.
At best, Jones will have a Mike Alstott TD vulture role as a rookie. He's got plenty of long-term value for keeper league owners. Oct. 5 - 2:02 pm et
Source: Florida Times-Union



And you have Jones for short yardage situations. Jones is a helluva back and if he can regain his pre-injury form, he can be a top back in this league. He had an amazing power/speed combination. We'll see if he's back to prior form.
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Postby Plindsey88 » Tue Oct 05, 2004 3:40 pm

Actually, I think this is good news for Taylor owners... Not only would Greg be a great lead blocker for Taylor, but he'd also do a lot to wear defenses down....
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Postby warrick95 » Tue Oct 05, 2004 3:43 pm

It depends, actually. We'll see how many carries Greg is given. I'd expect at least a good 5-10 a game to begin...but who knows.

First, Jones was never the greatest blocker at FSU. Well, he never had to do much of it (run blocking) and is probably extremely raw there. Pass protection is very different, but just FYI, he wasn't the greatest at that, either.

Second, it sort of depends on your league settings. In a 20/10 yardage, yes, it may result in more Taylor yards. However, in a 50/20, where TDs reign supreme, it definitely hurts.
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Postby Plindsey88 » Tue Oct 05, 2004 3:51 pm

warrick95 wrote:It depends, actually. We'll see how many carries Greg is given. I'd expect at least a good 5-10 a game to begin...but who knows.

First, Jones was never the greatest blocker at FSU. Well, he never had to do much of it (run blocking) and is probably extremely raw there. Pass protection is very different, but just FYI, he wasn't the greatest at that, either.

Second, it sort of depends on your league settings. In a 20/10 yardage, yes, it may result in more Taylor yards. However, in a 50/20, where TDs reign supreme, it definitely hurts.



LOL.... I've been to just about every FSU home game for the past many, many years, and those I did not attend (and away games) I most definitely watched on TV (or listened to Deckerhoff call on the radio)...

And I don't remember him doing too much lead blocking at all... But I do remember him knocking lineman and linebackers on their asses quite frequently... I could see him being a good lead blocker really easily...

Of course he's also a stud goal line back, so that might not be good for Taylor, either...
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Postby no1cowboysfan » Tue Oct 05, 2004 3:53 pm

i forsee a duce/jerome situation... poor taylor.
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Postby vdragon78 » Tue Oct 05, 2004 3:53 pm

i don't think it can get any worse for Fred Taylor's owners. The guy is a bust. I can't even get a top WR for him. Nowhere to go but up. Until then he's parked on the bench.
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Postby warrick95 » Tue Oct 05, 2004 4:05 pm

Plindsey88 wrote:
warrick95 wrote:It depends, actually. We'll see how many carries Greg is given. I'd expect at least a good 5-10 a game to begin...but who knows.

First, Jones was never the greatest blocker at FSU. Well, he never had to do much of it (run blocking) and is probably extremely raw there. Pass protection is very different, but just FYI, he wasn't the greatest at that, either.

Second, it sort of depends on your league settings. In a 20/10 yardage, yes, it may result in more Taylor yards. However, in a 50/20, where TDs reign supreme, it definitely hurts.



LOL.... I've been to just about every FSU home game for the past many, many years, and those I did not attend (and away games) I most definitely watched on TV (or listened to Deckerhoff call on the radio)...

And I don't remember him doing too much lead blocking at all... But I do remember him knocking lineman and linebackers on their asses quite frequently... I could see him being a good lead blocker really easily...

Of course he's also a stud goal line back, so that might not be good for Taylor, either...


Nice to see another Noles fan. I'm a huge FSU fan, perhaps you can tell by my sn.

The part that you bolded was where I stated that he isn't the greatest pass blocker didn't mention run blocking...he didn't do either much, come to think of it. Still, his technique on pass blocking seemed subpar to me. They didn't keep him on the field during passing downs much anyway, because he doesn't have great hands.

Due to his great burst, I agree with your assessment that he can be a great lead blocker. I just don't know if that's this season, because it does take some time to get used to blocking for the RB, instead of doing the running himself. Remember that huge hit on that poor UNC kid? Absolutely lovely.
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Postby The_Dude » Tue Oct 05, 2004 4:34 pm

vdragon78 wrote:i don't think it can get any worse for Fred Taylor's owners. The guy is a bust. I can't even get a top WR for him. Nowhere to go but up. Until then he's parked on the bench.


Unfortunately, I'm not deep enough to have him parked on my bench... he's parked in my starting lineup... hopefully, he can turn it around, and soon.
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Postby vdragon78 » Tue Oct 05, 2004 5:10 pm

The_Dude wrote:
vdragon78 wrote:i don't think it can get any worse for Fred Taylor's owners. The guy is a bust. I can't even get a top WR for him. Nowhere to go but up. Until then he's parked on the bench.


Unfortunately, I'm not deep enough to have him parked on my bench... he's parked in my starting lineup... hopefully, he can turn it around, and soon.


i hope so too.
i'm not deep at RB. I have CMart and Tiki Barber (no, i'm not a NY homer -- damn yahoo autopick) -- who are both surprising this year -- so i got a bit lucky so far, but i have a feeling my luck will run out pretty soon.
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Postby Ricky_Christ » Tue Oct 05, 2004 6:33 pm

Fred Taylor is a slow starter. I think he'll pick it up pretty soon. (Assuming he doesn't get injured first...)
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